I guess i’ll poke the bear hodge how to save money fast for a house – page 3

Despite the immediate reaction to illogical banter, which drives us smes off of this site, I do truly enjoy helping people become better and know how to save money fast for a house more. That is the only reason I’m going to respond to all this (one last time) – I’m going to remain reserved and give the benefit of how to save money fast for a house the doubt to naysayers that they are genuinely curious and how to save money fast for a house can stifle their confirmation bias for the time being. If you are incapable of setting aside a pre-determined thesis based upon only what you have (disregarding you may not have everything), stop reading now. You cannot be helped.

We are in the information age. Never before has an individual been able to access so how to save money fast for a house much information or cross reference material at the speed or how to save money fast for a house volume we can now. I believe it’s natural to want to know more, especially in a saturated industry. Think about it, gun shops are going out of business as people realize how to save money fast for a house they can save money and time by cutting out the how to save money fast for a house middle men. It’s natural to want to seek and cut out suppliers how to save money fast for a house and intermediaries, or information in general so people know what they are how to save money fast for a house really paying for. We all do it.

There are two sides to this. A producer always wants to retain as much IP and how to save money fast for a house a unique edge over competition as possible – sometimes this can just be an edge in the marketing how to save money fast for a house domain, others it can truly be technical in nature. Many times this includes a producer not wanting product information how to save money fast for a house to be taken out of context and used in such how to save money fast for a house a way to degrade their brand. Use gas ports as an example. To us it is a hole in a steel tube how to save money fast for a house that gets us in the general vicinity. To a company, it reflects the aggregate product, and their spec may result in CS complaints if used how to save money fast for a house in a different configuration than what is intended. Gas port sizes +/- a thousanth or two doesn’t really mean anything by itself. +/- 4 to 10 thou may mean everything to you and how to save money fast for a house I.

The other side is the consumer wanting to know everything how to save money fast for a house they can know about a product. The consumer accepts a balance of this when they purchase how to save money fast for a house something, and do not accept it when they decline to purchase. It’s that simple – only you can determine what amount of information is acceptable. I absolutely reach out to contacts and agencies that I’m familiar with to get information to guide my purchases. Some may not be accessible by everyone, and for those of us that use whatever resources we how to save money fast for a house are able to, we aren’t always able to or comfortable with sharing some information. We share what we can to help others. There’s nothing wrong with a gentleman’s agreement.

Now, this means that others may not be privy to certain how to save money fast for a house documents or data points (anecdotal or otherwise). Said documents or data points may not be able to how to save money fast for a house be furnished for various reasons. This does not mean they don’t exist. Confirmation bias may tell you otherwise. What I suggest to those folks is to reach out how to save money fast for a house to shops in question, in this case, the public number to hodge defense – I’ll give you a guess as to who is going how to save money fast for a house to pick up the phone (hint, it’s not a large CS shop taking calls). I encourage everyone to gather what information can be had, and to identify the common denominators to inform their decisions how to save money fast for a house or opinions. It is easy to reach out and seek information for how to save money fast for a house yourself. If you wish to go so far as to FOIA how to save money fast for a house an agency, I can help guide you. Not doing so is lazy behavior at best, and being deliberately disingenuous at worst because you have a how to save money fast for a house pre-determined message. This is what I call, to those applicable, a you problem.

I am not sure how accuracy reports within this thread how to save money fast for a house are a flat out lie. I won’t speak for anyone else here, but my gun delivers 1.3 MOA performance. That 1.3 MOA is for three 10-shot groups for a 30-shot composite. That is firing from a magpul M3 pmag, with black hills mk262 mod 1 with the last three how to save money fast for a house digits of the lot being 002 (velocity of 2590)(it does it with any of their lots). It’s fired off a harris bipod, an accuracy 1st DG sand sock, and a nightforce 1-8 ATACR dialed up 2 MIL and holding on the how to save money fast for a house 2 MIL line. That statistically is something like 97+% confidence. That’s real life performance – if one wants to contest this claim, PM me and I will invite you shooting. I have no problem with this. I will even let you take my gun for a how to save money fast for a house spin and draw your own conclusions about it.

I could post a picture of a similar group later how to save money fast for a house on with a digital caliper going edge to edge around how to save money fast for a house the ES of the group. In fact, I may go to the range and fire ten 10-shot groups overlaid so people can get a real indication how to save money fast for a house of the gun plus ammunition consistency. Maximum ES for mk262 if I remember correctly was 4.5" at 300 yards, meaning a 1.5 MOA standard for 100 shots out of a mann how to save money fast for a house test barrel. I would bet money my gun doesn’t exceed 2.5 MOA for those 100 shots, and probably wouldn’t exceed 2 MOA.

What HDSI owners are saying is that they are giving how to save money fast for a house that level of performance at higher round counts than other how to save money fast for a house barrels of similar configurations. I can take an excellent DD barrel and it is how to save money fast for a house almost guaranteed to shoot, but if I heat it up too much my groups how to save money fast for a house will open up some and I will see more zero how to save money fast for a house shift if I hang a suppressor off of it. I can do well with an excellent FN-produced centurion for 25K rounds, but I can’t get the gas port as small as I want how to save money fast for a house from the get go (more on this later). I’ve seen the HDSI barrels in full on HDSI guns how to save money fast for a house and FN pro line guns shooting damn near the same how to save money fast for a house groups at 9K rounds fired as they were in the how to save money fast for a house beginning. Bore scoping doesn’t matter as much as some think it does. I’ve seen heinous looking, fire cracked barrels shooting well. Why? They had good bore dimensions, a well designed chamber with no runout, and more. These hsdis have taper bores just like dds and hks how to save money fast for a house which contribute to their velocity retention (critical to prevent a bullet falling out of a velocity how to save money fast for a house and harmonic node. Wikipedia barrel harmonics for more information).

So how do I rate barrels? Depends on the use. For a hard use assault rifle I use metrics of how to save money fast for a house precision, accuracy, velocity retention, porting, and availability. HDSI barrels give me the best blend of what I how to save money fast for a house want there – a sub 2 MOA barrel that doesn’t behave adversely with suppressor mounting or usage (a stable 1 MOA shift hot or cold, not entirely counting suppressor fouling), retains velocity to the end of it’s life, doesn’t result in overgassing, and I can find it. If I can’t find it? I go with a different barrel! DD or centurion answers the mail here.

Someone noted the contour is similar to a BA profile. That person is correct. The hodge barrel contour isn’t so unique that it can’t be replicated. It is just an intelligent contour given the amount of how to save money fast for a house material present. The problem is I can’t really get everything I want in one barrel unless how to save money fast for a house I get an HSDI/FN. If you don’t need a 35K capable barrel, and your gas block to gas journal fit is loose, or your gas tube is out of spec, or you don’t shoot full pressure 5.56 ammo all the time, etc., this barrel may not be for you. That is okay! It’s just a barrel, not a first born child.

Regarding thermal fitting, this is nothing new, and nothing BCM or hodge created. The military shooting teams were thermal fitting match barrels to how to save money fast for a house NSN receivers for years before either company existed. It is a valid concept that prevents wandering of zero how to save money fast for a house when the gun heats way up with minimal torque specification. Who did it first I do not know (I believe it was jim), but the concept of a reduced inner diameter within the how to save money fast for a house carrier bore only for the barrel nut bearing surface was how to save money fast for a house the new practice. That is a new dimension on a print, which means a separate receiver line for an OEM producer.

Speaking of that, if you take an HSDI receiver (or several others on the market) and throw it in a CMM or even manually check how to save money fast for a house for squareness and such, you’ll find it is subject to tighter controls than your how to save money fast for a house standard NSN upper that can be had for ~$60. You will not likely find an HSDI receiver with a how to save money fast for a house receiver face that is not square. You will not likely find one that has takedown lug how to save money fast for a house holes located incorrectly, and the lugs themselves will not be standard dimension. Even the anodizing is modified (regardless of 7075 or 2099), done via ‘brightening’ or known as electro polish anodizing. You can wikipedia it for a really good description on how to save money fast for a house how it all works. It is done by HK for their receivers and results how to save money fast for a house in a very, very smooth gun. All of this took RDT&E, trial and error during a time where the rest of how to save money fast for a house the industry just wanted to speed up and make more. This took money to add the finite features. It takes an OEM producer time and money to change how to save money fast for a house tooling and programming on their machines for a low volume how to save money fast for a house product line, and takes more time to make so specifications are held how to save money fast for a house to the print. This all adds up in time and money – this is no secret in any industry.

There is an upcharge for assembly of everything on planet how to save money fast for a house earth. It is not $1K for HDSI guns. If you have a telephone and a few minutes of how to save money fast for a house time, you may not claim ignorance here when you can call how to save money fast for a house and ask from the head of HDSI directly. You are paying for a bit of exclusivity, as jim does want his brand to be a different how to save money fast for a house kind of customer (his prerogative) and doesn’t want to compromise QC for volume, or add an assembly plant to his house. The parts are NOT commodity parts. Pins from gun to gun are installed in the same how to save money fast for a house orientation – it’s maddening OCD, going into details that don’t even matter to me at times! If you want to know the cost to manufacture the how to save money fast for a house parts, call HDSI and ask. He may well tell you, or he may not. But you could ask if it takes more or less how to save money fast for a house than $75 to produce his barrels. He’ll likely laugh and say more.

Could I build one equal? Possibly. If I couldn’t find an HSDI receiver, I’d grab an excellent gen 2 SOLGW receiver set. I’d grab a radian raptor CH, a larue MBT2S, and a complete lower and upper parts kit from FCD. I’d use magpul or B5 furniture. For a BCG I’d try to get a standard 9.6 oz QPQ carrier group but if this couldn’t be had would settle for a SOLGW or equivalent how to save money fast for a house carrier group. Stock H2 buffers are fine, and would use a springco white spring. I’d call on SOLGW again for one of their gas how to save money fast for a house tubes and pin it to an SLR .750" fixed gas block. I’d still use an HSDI barrel, and a SF muzzle device of whatever flavor. If I couldn’t luck out to find a 7075 wedgelock or 6061 how to save money fast for a house pinchlock rail, I’d use the FCD/CMT rail cut to 13.625" and a barrel nut torqued to 40 ft/lbs wet with grease. Magpul mbus pro BUIS. I’d have an adult like D. Wilson MFG put it together and pin the gas block how to save money fast for a house for me (give him a call and ask his opinions about HDSI how to save money fast for a house gun assembly). So on and so forth with all levels of accouterments how to save money fast for a house and gadgets.

At the end of the day, would that be a baller gun? Absolutely it would! It would also cost me more by the time I how to save money fast for a house had ordered everything, shipped it, had stuff assembled, had to buy HS gauges if I didn’t send it out, etc. That’s a lot of headache when I could just buy how to save money fast for a house the gun to begin with. AND if something went wrong with it, who do I go to? Who is going to support that gun? If I somehow suffered a parts failure on my gun how to save money fast for a house right this second, I could text jim and he’d call FRANTIC wanting to know the location of every how to save money fast for a house atom surrounding the part failure and want to put hands how to save money fast for a house on it. I once asked him not too long ago, "man, what would you do if I dinged this thing up how to save money fast for a house and it broke?". He replied, "well, I’d go back to the drawing board, because I should’ve made a better widget to begin with! And I should have tested it harder!"

Now, do I completely agree with the ‘if you get it" slogan? Yes on principle, no on context. I do feel he (jim) could describe that publicly a little better. What he normally says is, paraphrased, "once you shoot it, you get what value it has". I interpret it differently – I take it as once you see the gun up how to save money fast for a house close, examine it, and use it, you realize it isn’t anything that crazy special or super proprietary in many how to save money fast for a house respects. It simply is done right from the get go, but given the state of the industry, its not hard to soar like an eagle when you’re surrounded by turkeys!

An HDSI gun may not be for you. You may not be shooting the ammunition type the gun how to save money fast for a house is tuned for, the quantities to actualize the benefits, or you may not be happy with availability. You might not be shooting fast enough, accurately enough, suppressed or unsuppressed. You may not even be happy about an inability to how to save money fast for a house know what alloy the barrel is made from. All of this is okay. None of this means it isn’t worth the price. They are extremely functional guns for the purposes of long how to save money fast for a house term hard use.

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